SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:26 pm

Red[SP] wrote:

Kiddragon wrote:

Red[SP] wrote:

I'm kind of subjective on the d-throw; just where will the opponent be traveling and how far will he/she travel?

Not really far.
About as far as the first hit of a combo.

AKA just far enough far for her to complete her casting.

Oh, okay. I just got this weird feeling it was going to be a small whisper and then a push of some kind that wasn't all too far but had a ridiculous casting speed that would result in a game breaking maneuver.

Forgot to say that it's not stackable.

PS: She was hard as hell to balance, with all her healing...

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Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:53 pm

I'm gonna go work on the Onion Knight class. Dissidia and FFIII both portray him as a lethal joke character, so I would appreciate any ideas that would work to this end.

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	For reference, the Onion Knight starts off weak in both games, but as he levels up he becomes more powerful. In Dissidia, he learns how to chain his attacks into powerful combos as he levels, and in Final Fantasy III, at level 99 he gets max stats in everything.

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allrigth soo can anyone give sugestion to i make an characters?

Finished all the other classes cause it's really fun to do.

Warrior

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Thief.

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Red Mage

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N: Dark. Chargeable. Charges equal Dark, Darkra, and Darkga. It acts somewhat like Shadow Ball. Full charge turns it into Souleater, which causes 10% damage to Red, but with much more power, and goes through enemies rather than disappear after one.
S: Catch. He sticks his palm out. If it is hit, the object is destroyed. If it was an Item, he gains it. For physical attacks, he shrugs it off.
S2: Aero. Shoots a multihitting tornado forward.
Exit: Teleports upward like Black, but his doesn't go quite as far.
D: Stun. After a delay of charging, releases magic yellow flames that inflict dizzy on the enemy.
FS: Ardor. Charges up, then releases a gigantic blue fire blast that devastates anywhere nearby.

Smashes:
F: Scourge. Sticks hand out, then shoots blue flames. When fully charged, becomes a bigger, more powerful flame, and inflicts poison. Also has a 20% chance of becoming 1.5X stronger.
U: Stone. A multitude of rocks come out of the ground and shoot up. Full charge gets a giant stone pillar that shoots up and lances the opponent.
D: Gravity. A large purple orb appears around Red. It draws opponents in and gives rapid damage. Full charge, the orb is bigger, and sucks opponents in from far away, and finishes with a powerful burst.

Tilts:
F: Stabs forward with a rapier that has En Blizzard cast on it. Has a decent chance of freezing.
U: Stabs upward with sword that has En Thunder. Deals one big hit if in the center, rapid if on edges.
D: Taps the ground with a staff that has En Fire cast on it. Two small pillars of flame appear on either side.

Grab:
F: Ice Spikes. Summons ice spikes, then shoots them at him.
D: Shock Spikes. Red gets covered with an electric orb, multihitting enemies.
U: Blaze Spikes. Shoots fire spikes at the enemy after tossing them up.
B: Tosses them backwards, then attacks with a bow.

Airs:
N: Poison. Emits a magic wave that poisons opponents.
F: Attacks with a En Dark Broadsword. Meteors and has the Dark Effect like Mewtwo.
U: Stabs upward with a En Aero'd Knife. Multi Hit.
D: Link Style Down Stab with an En Stoned Sword. If he hits the ground, two pillars appear.
B: En Light Katana Slash. Very fast.

Monk

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And now the other classes. Because I can.
Geomancer.

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Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:41 am

I'm currently working on a moveset for Joey Wheeler. The moveset I currently have is on the first page.

Anyone got any suggestions for improvement/monsters that can be used?

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:22 am

[DBZ]

Bardock:

Ginyu Force:

Ginyu
Neutral Special: Body Change - Ginyu fires a yellow beam from his mouth that switches his postition with someone else that he hits. Can be fired in all direction. Does no damage and knockback.
Side Special: Milky Cannon - Fires a purple beam from his hand. Does medium damage and medium knockback.
Down Special:Team Change - Switch between the Ginyu Force members
Up Special: Ginyu Strike - Ginyu punches the opponent into the air, then flies up and punches them in mid-air then elbows them to the ground. In all it should do about 20%, is a meteor smash. Unlike Recoomes this travels the full hieght even if Ginyu doesn't hit anyone.

Jeice
Neutral Special:Crusher Ball - Jeice throws a ball that travels half the distance of final destination. Does medium damage low knockback
Side Special: Red magma - Covers his body in Ki and flies forewards at a high speed. It has minimal control. Does low and damage low knockback.
Down Special:Team Change - Switch between the Ginyu Force members
Up Special: Full power wave - Jeice flies in the air and shoots a thin red beam of energy diagonally downwards. Does medium damage and medium knock back

Burter
Neutral Special: Space Mach Attack - Burter does a 35 hit high speed combo attack in front of him. Each attack does 1% damage and very low knockback. Once hit you can't escape. Whole attack lasts 5 seconds with a 5 second recharge.
Side Special: - Blue Hurricane - Covers his body in Ki and flies forewards at a high speed. It has minimal control. Does low and damage low knockback.
Down Special:Team Change - Switch between the Ginyu Force members
Up Special:
1. Mach Kick - Burter delivers several kicks while they carry him upwards. About 10-15 kicks or so each dealing 1% damage. Does low knockback (The worst recovery move in the Ginyu Force)
2. Flight - Burter flies upward at an incredible speed. Does medium damage and medium knockback. Is charged similar to Fox's

Recoome
Neutral Special: Recoome Eraser Gun - Recoome fires a beam from his mouth. Does medium damage and medium knockback
Side Special: Recoome Hip Attack - Recoome dashes forward and does a hip thrust. Similar to Peach's. Does low damage high knockback.
Down Special:Team Change - Switch between the Ginyu Force members
Up Special: Recoome Hyper Swing - Recoome grabs the opponent, flies into the air and spikes them into the stage. does high dammage and low knockback. Recoome doesn't have to grab the opponent to perform the move but grabbing an opponent will give Recoome twice the hieght.

Guldo
Neutral Special: Guldo Special - Guldo throws a tree spike that travels half the distance of final destination. Does high damage low knock back
Side Special: Eye lasers - Guldo fires short range lasers from his eyes. Does medium damage and low knockback.
Down Special:Team Change - Switch between the Ginyu Force members
Up Special: Freeze time - Guldo stops time and moves in any direction almost intaneously.
*Doesn't actually stop time but rather warps instantaneously in the desired direcion. Has a recharge time of 5 seconds.

Final Smash: The current Ginyu Force member kicks his opponent in the air and the other members attack him with a powerful rush move. Does extremly high damage and high knockback. (Use supersonic warriors 2 for reference)
* All beams travel as far as Goku's fully charged kamehameha

Tien:

Hercule Satan:

Super Janemba:

[Pokemon]

Pokemon Conquest Warlord:

Playstyle: Warlord will focus on quick painful combos. His best skill will be his ability to fight in tandem with his partner Eevee. This will work differently than the Ice Climbers though. *I'm assuming that Warlord has the skills to use swords* Every attack will alternate between Warlord and Eevee. The only exception to this is the combo, which goes: Eevee - Warlord - Eevee. Warlords attacks are best suited for aieral combat while Eevee is able to set up combos both in the air and on the ground. They share the same damage counter but unlike Ice Climbers if one gets killed, then the other can play on. For example, if Warlord gets KO'd then you play as only Eevee but due to the fact they work in tandem a lot of their playstyle is gone.

N Spec: Overflowing Bravery - Increases attack and speed for 10 seconds for both Eevee and Warlord. This skill can only be used once per life. Cannot be used if Warlord has been KO'd.

Side Special: Quick Attack - Eevee dashes forth with Warlord close behind. If Eevee connects with someone he hits them backward towards Warlord who slashes them upward. It is possible to get more than one opponent with Warlord's upward slash. Eevee's attack does 7% damage and backward knockback while Warlords slash does 8% damage and high vertical knockback.
Can be used if either Warlord or Eevee has been KO'd but if one has then their attack does not happen.

Up Special: Celebrate - Eevee activates it's special ability which gives Eevee and Warlord an extra two jumps. This move can only be used once in the air, and for it to activate Warlord and Eevee must have used up there jumps. This cannot be used on the ground. Cannot be used if Eevee has been KO'd

Down Special: Best Link - Warlord strengthens his bond with Eevee causing the damage done by Eevee in the N special to rise by 5%. This move can only be activated after Ko'ing an opponent and can be be used 5 times in a life, for a max increase of 25%. Cannot be used if Warlord has been KO'd.

Final Smash: Arceus Link - The Warlord links with legendary pokemon Arceus. Arceus then uses his attack Judgement. This causes massive damage massive knockback for anyone caught in it.
This can be used even if Warlord has been KO'd.

Nobunaga:

[Other]

Ryu:

Hype:

Note: All specials work in the same way. One of three elements (Electric, Ice, fire) will randomly slected, and there is a small chance Hype will use all three at once. 30% of fire (20% damage, low knockback, moves at a an average speed) 30% of Ice (10% damage, low knockback, freezes, slow moving) 30% Lightining (15% damage, medium-high knockback, fast moving) 10% using all three at once. All attacks need to be charged for 2 (Except for down which needs 4 seconds) seconds after use, when charged A almost transparent rune will appear on Hype with the charged spell on it.

Neutral Special: Javelin - Hype throws forward a small, projectile based on the aforementioned elements in the direction he is facing that travels half the distance of battlefield. Has a lot of ending lag. If all three appear at once they are stacked ontop of one another. (Like how 3 arrows are fired at once)

Side Special: Trinity - He summons up a trinity in front of him which follows him around for 5 seconds. If an enemy touches this barrier a small blast is emmited from the trinity with the damage and properties as listed above. If all three are out at once the are summoned in front of him, behind him and above him. Has medium start up lag, but no ending lag whatsoever. Only one can be out at a time (Unless all three are summoned)

Up Special: Dragon - Hype summons forth a dragon in which he rides upward upon. In order of height in which they travel: Lightning, fire, ice. Has a lot of start up lag and quite a bit of ending lag. If all three are out at once, then they fly upward in a diagonal line, and is possible for Hype to jump from dragon to dragon.

Down Special: Ring - Hype summons an ring of one of the elements underneath the nearest oppnent, which explodes after 2 seconds. If all three are out at once then one is summoned from below, and one is summoned from either side. Cannot be used an an oppnent in the air.

Final Smash: Time Travel - Hype slashes the opponent with his sword, then dissapears for two seconds, he then reappears behind the opponent and slashes them again. This happens four times. Then four Hype's appear surround the opponent to hack and slash him for about 50% damage, three of the four Hype's dissapear, and the last one delivers a powerful blow dealing extremly-high knockback.

Yami Marik:

N Special: Monster card
Viser Des –Marik summons Viser Des who locks onto a nearby opponent. After 30 seconds Viser Des attacks an opponent dealing 50% damage and high knock back. Only one Viser Des can be activated. Has incredibly short range.
Dark Jeroid – Marik summons Dark Jeroid who uses his ability to reduce the next attack of the closest opponent by 8%.
Bowgainian – Marik summons Bowgainian which fires an arrow. If the arrow hits an opponent it does 2% and sticks in them. The stuck arrow does 6% damage every second for 3-5 seconds. Only one arrow can be on the field at a time.
Drillago – Marik summons Drillago who attacks with his spinning drill hand. It has short range, does 16% damage, and low knockback. It attacks through shields and Reflect Metal Slime without damaging it.

Side Special: Spell/trap Card
Acid Trap Hole – Marik summons a trap hole which stays on the stage until an opponent steps into it. If someone does step into it, it works as a pitfall trap but dealing 2% damage for every second they are in there.
Creature Swap – Marik uses creature swap, swapping his and an opponent’s place. This has very short range, but can be used to trick opponents easily. For example standing on an acid trap hole and then using creature swap to place your opponent right into it.
Nightmare Wheel – Marik traps a person on a nightmare wheel, leaving them unable to move. This also does 5% damage for every second they are trapped on it. Lasts for 3-5 seconds, they can be attacked but do not take knockback. Only one can be on the stage at a time.
Metal Reflect Slime – Marik summons a Metal Reflect Slime. It’s goddamn everything proof, apart from final smashes. It stays on the stage indefinitely, until Marik gets KO’d or it takes 50% damage. Marik can use Creature swap to swap places with it.

Up Special: Allure of Darkness
Marik shrouds himself in a cloud of darkness. While in the cloud he can move in any direction for 3-4 seconds. He cannot do any damage or take any damage while in the darkness cloud.

Down Special: Draw card
Marik draws a card changing his side and neutral specials.

Final Smash:
Winged Dragon of Ra – Marik summons Ra and makes use of his Point to Point Transfer ability. Marik’s percentage rises to 999% and the damage caused by Ra is whatever the amount of damage was needed to reach 999% e.g. Marik is on 137%, he grabs the smash ball he gains 862% damage to reach 999%, the damaged caused by Ra is now 862%. Ra attacks using a fire wave, similar to BM’s flare. It deals no knockback, stuns everybody for 1-3 seconds and hits everybody regardless.

[OC's]

Protagonists

Martin "Martini" Jacko:

Playstyle: Martin is an average character. Average speed, average strength etc. But his biggest strength is his ability to trick his opponent and to keep them on their toes. His arsenal is made up of attacks which he can use to keep the opponent guessing. While it is tricky to get the hang of at first it’s even harder for your opponent to guess what you’re going to do next. His down special is his most lethal move in terms of trickery, and is an excellent combo starter. He is a middle weight and doesn’t excel in either ground or air fighting.

Neutral Special: Appletini - Martin charges up a green orb in his hand. Has 3 levels of charge:
none - low knockback, 10% damage.
half - medium knockback, 10% damage.
Full - medium knockback, 15% damage.
When at the desired charge Martin will throw the green orb, which homes in on the opponent (for 4-5 seconds). If the special button is pressed in conjunction with an arrow key the orb will teleport in the pressed direction, and then proceed to home in again. If the special button is pressed without an arrow key, then the orb will show the teleportation animation, but not teleport anywhere. This can be done twice per orb; only one orb can be out at a time. Teleporting the orb causes their speed to be halved each time they teleport. Works like Snakes rocket, just with the ability to teleport.

Side Special: Flaming Dr Pepper - Martin covers his body in bright blue fire and charges forward at the opponent. He travels half the size of Battlefield doing average knockback and 12% damage. Pressing the special button with one of the side arrow keys will cause him to teleport in that direction and run back to where he was. Pressing the special button without an arrow the teleportation effect will play, but Martin won't teleport and run forward like normal.

Up Special: Wolfram – Martin summons three wolves, the middle wolf swallows him, and they then proceed to run in different directions. The left wolf arcing left, the right wolf arcing right, and the middle wolf running straight up. Each wolf does average knockback and 15% damage. There is 1-2 seconds before the wolves run upward, during this time Martin can change which wolf he is in using the directional arrows. After reaching their maximum height the wolf spit him out into a helpless state.

Down Special: Three wise men – Martin summons three identical clones, 1 in the air and 1 on either side of him. These clones stay there for three seconds before they disappear. If anyone hits these clones they take 2% damage and are stunned for 3-4 seconds. If the real Martin is hit then the clones disappear and Martin takes damage as normal. Martin can swap places with the clones by using the appropriate arrow key. If he is in the air he summons an extra clone beneath him. It can only be used once in the air, and needs 4 seconds to recharge. It is impossible to tell which clone he has switched places with and impossible to tell which is the real Martin.

Final Smash: Death in the afternoon – Martin charges up massive Appletini’s (1 for each opponent) and throws them; they chase down their targeted opponent, but teleport away just before hitting them. You can then run around as Martin but after 3-4 the Appletini’s reappear behind their targeted player, and fire a beam from their centre. The beam is as big as a fully charged Kamehameha from SSJ Goku and reaches the whole way across the stage. Each beam does 70% damage and high knockback. Martin is not hurt from these beams.

Antagonists

James "Master" Bates:

[Moveset Comp]

Roy (Fire Emblem) Place: Unkown:

N Special: Fimbulvetr – Roy fires an ice ball from his hands. It goes a short distance. It does 8% damage, low knockback and freezes opponents on touch. This has low ending and startup lag. Only one ice ball can be on screen at a time. And if an enemy was hit, Roy must wait until they break out before he can fire another one.

Side Special: Purge – Roy fires a white beam from his hand. It has excellent range going the same distance as a fully charged Kamehameha. It is a very thin beam and doesn’t stay on screen for very long. It does 10% damage and low knockback, this gets increased to 20% damage if the enemy has a negative status effect, but it gets rid of the enemy’s status effect. If Roy shoots a team mate with a negative status effect it gets rid of it, without doing damage. It has low start up lag and low ending lag, Roy must wait 5 seconds before he can use this again.

Up Special: Aircalibur – Roy rides up on an incredibly strong current. It does up about the same height as Marth’s up special. When the attack is over Roy is free to attack and jump, assuming he has jumps left. The wind can be angled into the direction you want to go before it started; once it’s started it can’t change direction. The wind does all the damage in this attack doing 15% damage and no knockback. The wind current drags opponents up with Roy in a stunned state, allowing Roy to punishing them after it’s over. Has medium start up lag, but no ending lag.

Down Special: Recover – Roy uses the Sword of Seals to recover 30% damage. It has lots of startup lag but low ending lag. Roy must wait 20 seconds before he is able to use this move again. Roy will get a white aura for 3 seconds to signify the move can be used.

Final Smash: Eclipse – Roy uses the dark magic Eclipse. It hits everyone on the field, regardless of where they are and whether they are guarding or not. It puts everyone’s damage (Aside from team mates and Roy’s) up to 999%. It does no knockback, and only has a 25% chance of affecting anyone.

Sophitia (Soul Calibur) Place: Unkown:

Plusle and Minun (Pokemon) Place: Unkown:

Neutral: Copycat – Plusle and Minun use copycat, each facing in opposite directions. If they are hit with an attack they do a similar attack. (For things like Falcon Punch or Kamehameha, moves like Thunder Punch or Charge Beam could be used) If they are not hit for 3 seconds then they go back into their idle. If they are not hit, this move has a lot of ending lag.

Side: Spark - Plusle and Minun cover their body in electricity and run forward at a high speed, dealing moderate damage (10%) and moderate knockback. The amount of charge and be increased so damage and knockback is increased. At full charge it will do 18% damage and high knockback. Causes them to travel about half the distance of battlefield no matter the charge. It has lots of startup lag and very little ending lag.

Down: Fake tears - Plusle and Minun sit down and start to cry for 4 seconds, unless someone runs into their tears in which they stop crying. If someone runs into the tears then they are stunned for 3-4 seconds. This move has a lot of ending lag. A great combo starter. It’s not too dissimilar from Jigglypuffs down special.

Up Special: Baton Pass – A non damaging move, with high amount of startup lag. Plusle and Minun jump back inside a Poke ball which flies up a fair distance, and sends them back out into a helpless state. It also switches the Pokémon in charge, for example if the player was Minun they would now be Plusle. He direction in which they fly in can be altered using the arrow keys. They are invincible while in the poke ball.

Final Smash: Helping Hand – A semi final form. Plusle and Minun pat each on the back and say some encouraging words to each other, empowering them. Their speed, jump height and attack strength is doubled for ten seconds (Or however long most final forms go for). For Fake tears, the amount of time the opponent is stunned for is doubled, and for Copycat the amount of damage Plusle and Minun do in their counter is also doubled. Distance travelled in Baton pass is also doubled.

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I put up a moveset for Alduin from Skyrim.

Criticism?

Oh, and while I'm here, anything on Dragonborn or Foreman Spike? I haven't heard anything about theirs yet.

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:09 pm

@Cracked
Bardock's Neutral is way too broken.

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:36 pm

I didn't think Bardock could go Super Saiyain.

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:24 pm

It would be better if he was a Great Ape and did an attack or something.

Ranger.

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Scholar.

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@Meta
Better?

@Arctic
Watch the episode of Bardock

@Ken
Sorry, but personally I think Great Ape would be better for either Kid Goku or early Vegeta. I'm going to keep it as it is for now

Posted a rough moveset for the Ginyu Force. Needing help with the up specials.

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:52 pm

Still pretty spammable. Try adding some ending lag.

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:30 pm

Reiforce wrote:

And now the other classes. Because I can.

Just don't do Onion Knight. That's my bag, dig?

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allrigth soo can anyone give sugestion to i make an characters?

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:38 pm

Does Bardock really need to turn Super Sayain in order to do the revenger cannon?
In the original special (not the new one), and the games he just does it normally. It would be more canon (no pun intended) if he didn't go SS anyway. He only went SS in the new special and the new arcade game, so most people have little knowledge that he can go SS.

Subject: Re: SSB Moveset Creation and Discussion Thread Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:23 pm

Chick In A Box wrote:

Reiforce wrote:

And now the other classes. Because I can.

Just don't do Onion Knight. That's my bag, dig?

All yours.

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